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unstable C110

Maurice Janssen-2
Hi,

I have a C110 and I'm trying to install 4.0-release on it.  However,
I can't finish the install prodecure because the machine keeps locking
up or panicing during the install.
When I boot HP-UX (which is installed on the wide differential scsi
drive) it seems to run fine (even though I can't do much because I don't
have a login).  Therefore, I think the hardware is OK.

WHen I hookup a ordinary narrow SCSI drive and netboot the machine, the
kernel usually loads fine.  Sometimes it hangs at this point (the
Install/Upgrade/Shell line never appears), sometimes it panics while
formatting, sometimes it panics while installing the filesets, sometimes
when setting up the network, but it never completes a full install.

See below for the dmesg.
If anyone is interested, I can post some screendumps of a panic.

Some things I tried:
- swapping some of the memory around doesn't help
- serial or PS/2 console makes no difference
- I put in a different disk with 4.0-release from a 712/100 machine.  This
  disk works fine in the 712/100, but in the C110 similar things happen:
  panics or lockups during boot, usually before the login prompt appears

Is the machine FUBAR or is there something I can do to get it up and
running with OpenBSD?

Thanks,
Maurice



dmesg from the netboot kernel (without a disk on the NCR53C710 controller):
# dmesg
[ bsd ELF symbol table not valid: symtab unaligned ]
[ no symbol table formats found ]
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
        The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 1995-2006 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.  http://www.OpenBSD.org

OpenBSD 4.0 (RAMDISK) #387: Sun Sep 17 13:07:27 MDT 2006
    [hidden email]:/usr/src/sys/arch/hppa/compile/RAMDISK
HP 9000/780/C110 (Raven 120 T') PA-RISC 1.1a
real mem = 268435456 (524288 reserved for PROM, 8925184 used by OpenBSD)
avail mem = 225533952
using 8421 buffers containing 26828800 bytes of memory
mainbus0 (root) [flex fff80000]
pdc0 at mainbus0
power0 at mainbus0 offset 140000
"FW SCSI" at mainbus0 (type 4 sv 89 mod 1 hv f0) offset 3f8c000 not configured
mem0 at mainbus0 offset ffb1000: size 256MB
cpu0 at mainbus0 offset ffa0000 irq 31: PCXT' L1-A 120MHz, FPU PCXT' (Tornado) rev 1
cpu0: 256K(32b/l) Icache, 258K(32b/l) wr-back Dcache, 120 coherent TLB, 16 BTLB
wax0 at mainbus0 offset fe00000 irq 24
gsc2 at wax0
com1 at gsc2 offset 2000 irq 6: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
hil0 at gsc2 offset 1000 irq 1
mongoose0 at mainbus0 offset c000000 irq 17: HWPC0E1 rev 0, 25 MHz
eisa0 at mongoose0
unknown Interphase device INP0500 at eisa0 slot 2 not configured
isa at mongoose0 not configured
lasi0 at mainbus0 offset fd00000 irq 28: rev 3.0
gsc0 at lasi0: wordleds
gsckbc0 at gsc0 offset 8100 irq 26
gsckbc1 at gsc0 offset 8000 irq 26
"floppy controller" at gsc0 (type a sv 83 mod 3 hv 20) offset a000 not configured
"Advanced audio (ext.)" at gsc0 (type a sv 7b mod 3 hv 20) offset 4000 not configured
lpt0 at gsc0 offset 2000 irq 7
com0 at gsc0 offset 5000 irq 5: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
com0: console
ie0 at gsc0 offset 7000 irq 8: LASI/i82596CA v3.0, address 08:00:09:cd:a4:e6
osiop0 at gsc0 offset 6000 irq 9: NCR53C710 rev 2, 40MHz, SCSI ID 7
scsibus0 at osiop0: 8 targets
osiop0: target 2 now using 8 bit 4 MHz 8 REQ/ACK offset xfers
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 2 lun 0: <TOSHIBA, CD-ROM XM-5401TA, 1036> SCSI2 5/cdrom removable
sti0 at mainbus0 offset 4000000 irq 11: HPA208LC1024 rev 8.04;7, ID 0x2B4DED6D40A00499
sti0: 2048x1024 frame buffer, 1024x768x8 display, offset 0x0
sti0: 8x16 font type 1, 16 bpc, charset 0-255
biomask 0x7 netmask 0xf ttymask 0x3f
boot path: 8/12/6.10000.8d5e0000.24c6a122.4525fe03.c0a80101.c0a80164 class=4098 flags=0 hpa=0xffd07000 spa=0x0 io=0xc000
rd0: fixed, 5120 blocks
hil0: no devices
wsdisplay0 at sti0 mux 1
wsdisplay0: screen 0 added (default, vt100 emulation)
rootdev=0x300 rrootdev=0x900 rawdev=0x902
WARNING: clock lost 13408 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE!

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Re: unstable C110

Michael Shalayeff-2
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 10:26:56PM +0100, Maurice Janssen wrote:
> Hi,
re

> I have a C110 and I'm trying to install 4.0-release on it.  However,
> I can't finish the install prodecure because the machine keeps locking
> up or panicing during the install.
> When I boot HP-UX (which is installed on the wide differential scsi
> drive) it seems to run fine (even though I can't do much because I don't
> have a login).  Therefore, I think the hardware is OK.
>
> WHen I hookup a ordinary narrow SCSI drive and netboot the machine, the
> kernel usually loads fine.  Sometimes it hangs at this point (the
> Install/Upgrade/Shell line never appears), sometimes it panics while
> formatting, sometimes it panics while installing the filesets, sometimes
> when setting up the network, but it never completes a full install.

have you tried snapshot or 3.9 by any chance?
i used to run it all the time and it was working fine.
will retry it someday.

> unknown Interphase device INP0500 at eisa0 slot 2 not configured

what is the interphase card in it btw?

cu
--
    paranoic mickey       (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)

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Re: unstable C110

Maurice Janssen-2
On Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 15:52:35 +0100, mickey wrote:
>On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 10:26:56PM +0100, Maurice Janssen wrote:
>> When I hookup a ordinary narrow SCSI drive and netboot the machine, the
>> kernel usually loads fine.  Sometimes it hangs at this point (the
>> Install/Upgrade/Shell line never appears), sometimes it panics while
>> formatting, sometimes it panics while installing the filesets, sometimes
>> when setting up the network, but it never completes a full install.
>
>have you tried snapshot or 3.9 by any chance?

I just gave 3.9 a try: the machine locked up after entering 'i<enter>'
at the "(I)nstall, (U)pgrade or (S)hell?" line.

The latest snapshot got a lot further, put paniced at this point:

IPv4 address for ie0? (or 'none' or 'dhcp') dhcp
Issuing hostname-associated DHCP request for ie0.
DHCPDISCOVER on ie0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 2
DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1
Stopped at      0xfc:   break   0,0
ddb> trace
(null)(0,0,0,0) at 0xfc
(null)(0,0,0,e6a7f100) at 0xfc
(null)(c0,0,0,0) at 0x27b348
-- syscall #252(7803c348, 1, ffffffff, 93, ...)
0x82168:
ddb> ps
   PID   PPID   PGRP    UID  S       FLAGS  WAIT       COMMAND
*22214  13548   3381      0  7        0x82             dhclient
 13548   3381   3381     77  2      0x4102             dhclient
  3381   8232   3381      0  3      0x4082  pause      ksh
  8232      1   8232      0  3      0x4082  pause      sh
     9      0      0      0  3    0x100200  aiodoned   aiodoned
     8      0      0      0  2    0x100200             update
     7      0      0      0  3    0x100200  cleaner    cleaner
     6      0      0      0  3    0x100200  reaper     reaper
     5      0      0      0  3    0x100200  pgdaemon   pagedaemon
     4      0      0      0  2    0x100200             hil0
     3      0      0      0  2    0x100600             scsi
     2      0      0      0  2    0x100600             power0
     1      0      1      0  3      0x4080  wait       init
     0     -1      0      0  2     0x80200             swapper
ddb>


>i used to run it all the time and it was working fine.

Hmm, that could mean that this one has some hardware problem.

>will retry it someday.
>
>> unknown Interphase device INP0500 at eisa0 slot 2 not configured
>
>what is the interphase card in it btw?

It's an EISA card with 10/100 Mbit NIC.

I think I'll try to install Debian Linux on it, just to see if it works
or not.

Maurice

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Re: unstable C110

Maurice Janssen-2
On Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 19:29:47 +0100, Maurice Janssen wrote:
>I think I'll try to install Debian Linux on it, just to see if it works
>or not.

The 50p disk crashed during the install, but Debian installed fine on
the wide differential disk.
Unfortunately, OpenBSD has no support for the WD controller and I have
no more spare narrow disks, so I can't do any further testing with OpenBSD
at this moment.  I'll try to find another disk and do some more testing.

Maurice

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Re: unstable C110

Maurice Janssen-2
In reply to this post by Maurice Janssen-2
On Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 22:26:56 +0100, Maurice Janssen wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have a C110 and I'm trying to install 4.0-release on it.  However,
>I can't finish the install prodecure because the machine keeps locking
>up or panicing during the install.

For the archives:
It seems that only 3.4 and 3.5 like this machine. 3.3 and all releases
from 3.6 up to 4.0 (and the latest snapshot) panic or hang during boot
or install.

Maurice