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ss20's wanted for ports builds

Theo de Raadt
As many of you know, we continue to build packages on a lot of
architectures which you don't have anymore, since quite often bugs are
exposed which affects the mainline architectures.

Unfortunately, we are running low on 32-bit sparc machines.  If any of
you have ss20's in good shape to give to the project, please let me
know.

I'd like to get them into the build cluster before the next release's
builds start.

Thanks.

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Re: ss20's wanted for ports builds

[B&G-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer
Hi Theo,

I am using OpenBSD now for 4 Years. This would be the right moment for me to
contribute to the project.
What sun sparc machine do you exactly need? What do you mean with "ss20"?

Maybe I can get One for you at eBay.


Greets,
Elmar


Am 16.07.2012 um 19:57 schrieb Theo de Raadt <[hidden email]>:

> As many of you know, we continue to build packages on a lot of
> architectures which you don't have anymore, since quite often bugs are
> exposed which affects the mainline architectures.
>
> Unfortunately, we are running low on 32-bit sparc machines.  If any of
> you have ss20's in good shape to give to the project, please let me
> know.
>
> I'd like to get them into the build cluster before the next release's
> builds start.
>
> Thanks.

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Re: ss20's wanted for ports builds

Matthew Dempsky-3
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:45 AM, [B&G-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> What sun sparc machine do you exactly need? What do you mean with "ss20"?

SS20 stands for SPARCstation 20: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARCstation_20

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Re: ss20's wanted for ports builds

Aaron Mason
I just had a look on eBay - I'm surprised to see them still attract
decent money - $300 for a single processor 125MHz with 256mb RAM and
2x18GB drives (http://goo.gl/jKAyl).  A bit out of my price range at
the moment, otherwise I'd be right there.



On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Matthew Dempsky <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:45 AM, [B&G-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> What sun sparc machine do you exactly need? What do you mean with "ss20"?
>
> SS20 stands for SPARCstation 20: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARCstation_20
>



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bernd-34
On 07/17/2012 02:04 AM, thus Aaron Mason spake:
> I just had a look on eBay - I'm surprised to see them still attract
> decent money - $300 for a single processor 125MHz with 256mb RAM and
> 2x18GB drives (http://goo.gl/jKAyl).  A bit out of my price range at
> the moment, otherwise I'd be right there.

I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two 75MHz
SuperSPARC II CPUs.

Bernd

> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Matthew Dempsky<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:45 AM, [B&G-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer
>> <[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>> What sun sparc machine do you exactly need? What do you mean with "ss20"?
>>
>> SS20 stands for SPARCstation 20: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARCstation_20

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Matthew Dempsky-3
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Bernd <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two 75MHz
> SuperSPARC II CPUs.

The workload for the snapshot and ports build machines really requires
full, local access.

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bernd-34
On 07/17/2012 08:32 AM, thus Matthew Dempsky spake:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Bernd<[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>> I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two
>> 75MHz SuperSPARC II CPUs.
>
> The workload for the snapshot and ports build machines really
> requires full, local access.

Well, console access would also be no problem -- except hands-on...

Bernd

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Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:37:19AM +0200, Bernd wrote:

> On 07/17/2012 08:32 AM, thus Matthew Dempsky spake:
> >On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Bernd<[hidden email]>
> >wrote:
> >>I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two
> >>75MHz SuperSPARC II CPUs.
> >
> >The workload for the snapshot and ports build machines really
> >requires full, local access.
>
> Well, console access would also be no problem -- except hands-on...
>
> Bernd

It's not a good idea to do offical builds on a machine that isn't
(physically) controlled by developers. Both from a practical and from
a security point of view.

        -Otto

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bernd-34
On 07/17/2012 08:49 AM, thus Otto Moerbeek spake:

> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:37:19AM +0200, Bernd wrote:
>
>> On 07/17/2012 08:32 AM, thus Matthew Dempsky spake:
>>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Bernd<[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two
>>>> 75MHz SuperSPARC II CPUs.
>>>
>>> The workload for the snapshot and ports build machines really
>>> requires full, local access.
>>
>> Well, console access would also be no problem -- except hands-on...
>>
>> Bernd
>
> It's not a good idea to do offical builds on a machine that isn't
> (physically) controlled by developers. Both from a practical and from
> a security point of view.

Yikes. So no chance to get my chinese-modified SPARC into your project? ;)

Okay, let's forget about that machine.

> -Otto

Bernd

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Peter Kay-5
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I have an SS20 in the loft (Manchester, UK) as it's too noisy and slow for me now. It's very low end though IIRC one CPU @ 40MHz and 32 or 64MB RAM. Transport to other countries is probably a mite expensive due to weight, mind..

Otto Moerbeek <[hidden email]> wrote:

>On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:37:19AM +0200, Bernd wrote:
>
>> On 07/17/2012 08:32 AM, thus Matthew Dempsky spake:
>> >On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Bernd<[hidden email]>
>> >wrote:
>> >>I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two
>> >>75MHz SuperSPARC II CPUs.
>> >
>> >The workload for the snapshot and ports build machines really
>> >requires full, local access.
>>
>> Well, console access would also be no problem -- except hands-on...
>>
>> Bernd
>
>It's not a good idea to do offical builds on a machine that isn't
>(physically) controlled by developers. Both from a practical and from
>a security point of view.
>
> -Otto

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Re: ss20's wanted for ports builds

Tom Knienieder
I can send a Ross Hypersparc 100 or 125 Mhz if needed ...

Am 17.07.2012 um 10:17 schrieb Peter Kay:

> I have an SS20 in the loft (Manchester, UK) as it's too noisy and slow for
me now. It's very low end though IIRC one CPU @ 40MHz and 32 or 64MB RAM.
Transport to other countries is probably a mite expensive due to weight,
mind..

>
> Otto Moerbeek <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:37:19AM +0200, Bernd wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/17/2012 08:32 AM, thus Matthew Dempsky spake:
>>>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Bernd<[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two
>>>>> 75MHz SuperSPARC II CPUs.
>>>>
>>>> The workload for the snapshot and ports build machines really
>>>> requires full, local access.
>>>
>>> Well, console access would also be no problem -- except hands-on...
>>>
>>> Bernd
>>
>> It's not a good idea to do offical builds on a machine that isn't
>> (physically) controlled by developers. Both from a practical and from
>> a security point of view.
>>
>> -Otto

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Gerald Thornberry-2
For those of us who don't have the hardware, is there a "shipping
fund" we could donate to?  I wouldn't mind chipping in to help get the
hardware where it's needed.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Tom Knienieder <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I can send a Ross Hypersparc 100 or 125 Mhz if needed ...
>
> Am 17.07.2012 um 10:17 schrieb Peter Kay:
>
>> I have an SS20 in the loft (Manchester, UK) as it's too noisy and slow for
> me now. It's very low end though IIRC one CPU @ 40MHz and 32 or 64MB RAM.
> Transport to other countries is probably a mite expensive due to weight,
> mind..
>>
>> Otto Moerbeek <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:37:19AM +0200, Bernd wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/17/2012 08:32 AM, thus Matthew Dempsky spake:
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Bernd<[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two
>>>>>> 75MHz SuperSPARC II CPUs.
>>>>>
>>>>> The workload for the snapshot and ports build machines really
>>>>> requires full, local access.
>>>>
>>>> Well, console access would also be no problem -- except hands-on...
>>>>
>>>> Bernd
>>>
>>> It's not a good idea to do offical builds on a machine that isn't
>>> (physically) controlled by developers. Both from a practical and from
>>> a security point of view.
>>>
>>>      -Otto

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Johan Ryberg
Good idea! That is a nice way of helping

// Johan

2012/7/17 Gerald Thornberry <[hidden email]>:
> For those of us who don't have the hardware, is there a "shipping
> fund" we could donate to?  I wouldn't mind chipping in to help get the
> hardware where it's needed.

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sven falempin
My university had plenty of those 7 years ago

institue galilée / universitée paris XIII

they may have dumped them

2012/7/17 Johan Ryberg <[hidden email]>

> Good idea! That is a nice way of helping
>
> // Johan
>
> 2012/7/17 Gerald Thornberry <[hidden email]>:
> > For those of us who don't have the hardware, is there a "shipping
> > fund" we could donate to?  I wouldn't mind chipping in to help get the
> > hardware where it's needed.
>
>


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Sevan / Venture37-2
In reply to this post by Gerald Thornberry-2
On 17 Jul 2012, at 13:50, Gerald Thornberry <[hidden email]> wrote:

> For those of us who don't have the hardware, is there a "shipping
> fund" we could donate to?  I wouldn't mind chipping in to help get the
> hardware where it's needed.


I need to get a SS20 to phessler@ from the Uk to Germany if people want to
help with that, will be looking into how much it costs to ship this week.


Sevan

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Franco Fichtner-2
On Jul 17, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Sevan / Venture37 wrote:

> On 17 Jul 2012, at 13:50, Gerald Thornberry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> For those of us who don't have the hardware, is there a "shipping
>> fund" we could donate to?  I wouldn't mind chipping in to help get the
>> hardware where it's needed.
>
> I need to get a SS20 to phessler@ from the Uk to Germany if people want to
> help with that, will be looking into how much it costs to ship this week.

Brilliant! Please let me know, too.


Franco

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Aaron Mason
I'm sure IndieGoGo would be happy to help out.  Worked for Matthew Inman anyway.

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Franco Fichtner <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Jul 17, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Sevan / Venture37 wrote:
>
>> On 17 Jul 2012, at 13:50, Gerald Thornberry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> For those of us who don't have the hardware, is there a "shipping
>>> fund" we could donate to?  I wouldn't mind chipping in to help get the
>>> hardware where it's needed.
>>
>> I need to get a SS20 to phessler@ from the Uk to Germany if people want to
>> help with that, will be looking into how much it costs to ship this week.
>
> Brilliant! Please let me know, too.
>
>
> Franco
>



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Erling Westenvik-2
In reply to this post by [B&G-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:45:30PM +0200, [B&G-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer wrote:
> What do you mean with "ss20"?

Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the
Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar missiles. Can't
seem to find any on ebay though but maybe someone in Russia can provide
shell access?

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Wojciech Puchar-5
>> What do you mean with "ss20"?
>
> Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the
> Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar missiles. Can't
> seem to find any on ebay though but maybe someone in Russia can provide
> shell access?
actually shell access is enough for single use. But let's leave that
weapons to Theo, but i ask for little tactical ones at 1kT range or so.
feel free to send me an offer. please include transport and activation. I would
send you my prefered target list.


Seriously, sorry if it's stupid question, but cannot one just run qemu to
emulate sparcstation (qemu can do this). It would probably be faster than
real hardware.

Or qemu emulation isn't like real hardware in catching bugs in OpenBSD
that are CPU dependant?

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Re: ss20's wanted for ports builds

Brian McCafferty
In reply to this post by Erling Westenvik-2
On 07/19/12 10:42, Erling Westenvik wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:45:30PM +0200, [B&G-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer wrote:
>> What do you mean with "ss20"?
>
> Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the
> Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar missiles. Can't
> seem to find any on ebay though but maybe someone in Russia can provide
> shell access?
>

I don't have any ss-20 missiles, but I do have a SS5/170(turbosparc).
Not, sure whether that would be useful or not.  If it's too slow, it
could possibly be adapted to control your centrifuge farm.

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