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luca suriano
My installurl is:
https://ftp.spline.de/pub/OpenBSD/


I can't upgrade my system, the directory '../6.1/packages/'
doesn't contain powerpc packages.

ls ../6.1/packages/
amd64/
arm/
hppa/
i386/

Why?

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Re: powerpc packages?

Jonathan Gray-11
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:11:46AM +0200, luca suriano wrote:

> My installurl is:
> https://ftp.spline.de/pub/OpenBSD/
>
>
> I can't upgrade my system, the directory '../6.1/packages/'
> doesn't contain powerpc packages.
>
> ls ../6.1/packages/
> amd64/
> arm/
> hppa/
> i386/
>
> Why?

6.1 packages for other architectures will show up in the future,
see http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=149204861428738&w=2

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Re: powerpc packages?

Matthias Freitag
last time packages were updated on the main server was

01-Mar-2017 05:19

my guess is, that the build-server crashed, just like with the
snapshots earlier this year


2017-04-13 11:21 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Gray <[hidden email]>:

> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:11:46AM +0200, luca suriano wrote:
> > My installurl is:
> > https://ftp.spline.de/pub/OpenBSD/
> >
> >
> > I can't upgrade my system, the directory '../6.1/packages/'
> > doesn't contain powerpc packages.
> >
> > ls ../6.1/packages/
> > amd64/
> > arm/
> > hppa/
> > i386/
> >
> > Why?
>
> 6.1 packages for other architectures will show up in the future,
> see http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=149204861428738&w=2
>
>
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Re: powerpc packages?

luca suriano
In reply to this post by Jonathan Gray-11
On Thu, 04/13/17, at 19:21:59, Jonathan Gray wrote:

> 6.1 packages for other architectures will show up in the future,
> see http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=149204861428738&w=2

Ok, many thanks

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Re: powerpc packages?

luca suriano
In reply to this post by Jonathan Gray-11
On Thu, 04/13/17, at 19:21:59, Jonathan Gray wrote:
> 6.1 packages for other architectures will show up in the future,
> see http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=149204861428738&w=2

I don't understand why release 6.1 if the packages are not ready!

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Re: powerpc packages?

Theo de Raadt-2
> On Thu, 04/13/17, at 19:21:59, Jonathan Gray wrote:
> > 6.1 packages for other architectures will show up in the future,
> > see http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=149204861428738&w=2
>
> I don't understand why release 6.1 if the packages are not ready!

Because I decided.

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Re: powerpc packages?

Super Bisquit
Hello,
Theo.
We need to talk in person.
Are you ready to meet me?

On Friday, April 14, 2017, Theo de Raadt <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > On Thu, 04/13/17, at 19:21:59, Jonathan Gray wrote:
> > > 6.1 packages for other architectures will show up in the future,
> > > see http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=149204861428738&w=2
> >
> > I don't understand why release 6.1 if the packages are not ready!
>
> Because I decided.
>
>
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Re: powerpc packages?

luca suriano
In reply to this post by Theo de Raadt-2
On Fri, 04/14/17, at 08:22:39, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > I don't understand why release 6.1 if the packages are not ready!
> Because I decided.

There is not doubt about that.

The problem is that after upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1 the result is:

$ doas pkg_add -u
https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/6.1/packages/powerpc/: no such dir
Couldn't find updates for ImageMagick-6.9.4.10 ProFont-2.2 amigafonts-1.0
avahi-0.6.31p24 awesome-3.5.9p0 bash-4.3.46 bzip2-1.0.6p8 cabextract-1.6
cairo-1.14.6p1 ccid-1.4.24 curl-7.49.0 cvsps-2.1p0 dbus-1.10.8v0
dbus-daemon-launch-helper-1.10.8 desktop-file-utils-0.23 djvulibre-3.5.27p0
[...]
startup-notification-0.12p4 terminus-font-4.40p0 tiff-4.0.6p1 tig-2.1.1p2
ubuntu-fonts-0.83 unzip-6.0p9 vim-7.4.1467p1-no_x11-perl-python-ruby
xpdf-3.04p1 xz-5.2.2p0 zip-3.0p0 zsh-5.2p3

So I got back to the old version, otherwise I would have had the system
unusable. That's it.

Thanks a lot for your awesome work.

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Re: powerpc packages?

Eric Oyen
well,
its a standard Theo Response. However, reading between the lines, isn't there a method to compile those packages for yourself? Honestly, it shouldn't be all that hard. If I had a PPC machine here, I would start with the 6.0 ppc packages and then start the compile process to make the 6.1. At least, this is what I would do IF I had a machine here to do it on.

As an aside to Theo, its been a few years since I last mentioned this, but perhaps its time you added (or allowed it to be added) some braille/speech support to the install media. THis comment is definitely off topic for this list, but I felt it needed to be said. Perhaps next time you are at the next Las Vegas convention, I might be able to show up and have a pleasant chat with you about that. Perhaps seeing the situation in person might inspire you to make OpenBSD live up to the "Open" part of the name.

-eric

On Apr 16, 2017, at 9:56 AM, luca suriano wrote:

> On Fri, 04/14/17, at 08:22:39, Theo de Raadt wrote:
>>> I don't understand why release 6.1 if the packages are not ready!
>> Because I decided.
>
> There is not doubt about that.
>
> The problem is that after upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1 the result is:
>
> $ doas pkg_add -u
> https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/6.1/packages/powerpc/: no such dir
> Couldn't find updates for ImageMagick-6.9.4.10 ProFont-2.2 amigafonts-1.0
> avahi-0.6.31p24 awesome-3.5.9p0 bash-4.3.46 bzip2-1.0.6p8 cabextract-1.6
> cairo-1.14.6p1 ccid-1.4.24 curl-7.49.0 cvsps-2.1p0 dbus-1.10.8v0
> dbus-daemon-launch-helper-1.10.8 desktop-file-utils-0.23 djvulibre-3.5.27p0
> [...]
> startup-notification-0.12p4 terminus-font-4.40p0 tiff-4.0.6p1 tig-2.1.1p2
> ubuntu-fonts-0.83 unzip-6.0p9 vim-7.4.1467p1-no_x11-perl-python-ruby
> xpdf-3.04p1 xz-5.2.2p0 zip-3.0p0 zsh-5.2p3
>
> So I got back to the old version, otherwise I would have had the system
> unusable. That's it.
>
> Thanks a lot for your awesome work.
>
> --
> "Information wants to be Free"
>

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Re: powerpc packages?

Theo de Raadt-2
> As an aside to Theo, its been a few years since I last mentioned this,
> but perhaps its time you added (or allowed it to be added) some
> braille/speech support to the install media. THis comment is definitely
> off topic for this list, but I felt it needed to be said. Perhaps next
> time you are at the next Las Vegas convention, I might be able to show
> up and have a pleasant chat with you about that. Perhaps seeing the
> situation in person might inspire you to make OpenBSD live up to the
> "Open" part of the name.

I'm sorry you are blind, but...

Your situation doesn't make me responsible in any way to write such
code for you.

Your attitude stinks, and your attack upon "Open" is disgusting.

Find someone to pay for such software, or write it yourself.

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Re: powerpc packages?

Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
In reply to this post by Eric Oyen
On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 01:07:25PM -0700, Eric Oyen wrote:
> well,
> its a standard Theo Response. However, reading between the lines, isn't there a method to compile those packages for yourself? Honestly, it shouldn't be all that hard. If I had a PPC machine here, I would start with the 6.0 ppc packages and then start the compile process to make the 6.1. At least, this is what I would do IF I had a machine here to do it on.

You never should mix packages for different versions. If he is running
6.0, then he can't build the packages for 6.1.


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Re: powerpc packages?

Super Bisquit
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html/#PortsFetch

There you go.

On Sunday, April 16, 2017, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 01:07:25PM -0700, Eric Oyen wrote:
> > well,
> > its a standard Theo Response. However, reading between the lines, isn't
> there a method to compile those packages for yourself? Honestly, it
> shouldn't be all that hard. If I had a PPC machine here, I would start with
> the 6.0 ppc packages and then start the compile process to make the 6.1. At
> least, this is what I would do IF I had a machine here to do it on.
>
> You never should mix packages for different versions. If he is running
> 6.0, then he can't build the packages for 6.1.
>
>
> [...]
>
> --
> Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info
>
>
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Re: powerpc packages?

Eric Oyen
In reply to this post by Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
um, why not? it sounds to me like this should be possible. acquire the source, make the appropriate patches, compile and package.

Or, if that really isn't possible, it would be possible to compile for ppc from an intel machine using the 6.1 packages as a base and patching, then cross compiling.

Now, mind you, I am not a coder. I tried to learn how to become one (on the fly). BAD IDEA. I also tried to port a text to speech package from linux over to OpenBSD. I never could get it to work. I know, I spent 6 months trying.

Anyway, from what I have read, making the PPC packages should be doable, but I don't have all the knowledge to do it properly other than by basic general instructions.

so, is cross compiling a viable option?

-eric

On Apr 16, 2017, at 3:22 PM, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 01:07:25PM -0700, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> well,
>> its a standard Theo Response. However, reading between the lines, isn't there a method to compile those packages for yourself? Honestly, it shouldn't be all that hard. If I had a PPC machine here, I would start with the 6.0 ppc packages and then start the compile process to make the 6.1. At least, this is what I would do IF I had a machine here to do it on.
>
> You never should mix packages for different versions. If he is running
> 6.0, then he can't build the packages for 6.1.
>
>
> [...]
>
> --
> Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info
>

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Re: powerpc packages?

Eric Oyen
In reply to this post by Super Bisquit
Error 404! Page not found.

-eric

On Apr 16, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Joe Nosay wrote:

> http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html/#PortsFetch

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Re: powerpc packages?

Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
In reply to this post by Super Bisquit
On lunes, 17 de abril de 2017 1:23:00 (CEST) Joe Nosay wrote:
> http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html/#PortsFetch
>
> There you go.

"The ports tree is tied to OpenBSD's flavors."

https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#PortsHow

>
> On Sunday, April 16, 2017, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
> <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 01:07:25PM -0700, Eric Oyen wrote:
> > > well,
> > > its a standard Theo Response. However, reading between the lines,
> > > isn't>
> > there a method to compile those packages for yourself? Honestly, it
> > shouldn't be all that hard. If I had a PPC machine here, I would
> > start with the 6.0 ppc packages and then start the compile process
> > to make the 6.1. At least, this is what I would do IF I had a
> > machine here to do it on.
> >
> > You never should mix packages for different versions. If he is
> > running 6.0, then he can't build the packages for 6.1.
> >
> >
> > [...]

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Re: powerpc packages?

Christian Weisgerber
In reply to this post by luca suriano
On 2017-04-13, luca suriano <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I can't upgrade my system, the directory '../6.1/packages/'
> doesn't contain powerpc packages.

It now does.

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