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Denny White
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Have a question about the results of running
/usr/ports/infrastructure/build/./out-of-date.
Here is the output from it:
Make sure your ports tree is up-to-date
Generating specs
Checking new package names
Recording old package names
Showing discrepancies
- --- /tmp/outdated.IJmN26992/old Sat Dec  3 12:02:14 2005
+++ /tmp/outdated.IJmN26992/new Sat Dec  3 12:02:14 2005
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@
  libiconv-1.9.2p1
  libltdl-1.5.18
  mergemaster-1.46p0
- -mozilla-firefox-1.0.6p3
+mozilla-firefox-1.0.6p4
  pine-4.63
  png-1.2.8
  tcl-8.4.7p1
Before installing mozilla-firefox, running ./out-of-date
showed nothing needing updating. I had installed the normal
programs I use here at home. Pine, fetchmail, gnupg, gpgme,
cvsup, mergemaster. No problems. I installed obsd 3.8 release
off the cd along with src, sys, XF4, ports. Then did a cvsup
to a local backup drive (complete tree), cd into /usr/src,
ran `cvs -d$CVSROOT -rOPENBSD_3_8 up -Pd', did the same for
/usr/ports & /usr/XF4, rebuilt kernel & installed & rebooted
(everything worked ok), rebuilt userland making sure /usr/obj
was clean & running beforehand the usual `cd /usr/src/etc &&
env DESTDIR=/ make distrib-dirs' & after running `cd
/usr/src/usr.sbin/httpd && make -f Makefile.bsd-
wrapper distribution' & then mergemaster, rebuilt /usr/XF4,
everything still okay up to installing mozilla-firefox package.
I haven't been building ports as I have no particular special
needs to build in, just installing packages with
`pkg_add ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/3.8/packages/i386/prog.tgz'.
The same thing had happened previously when I had installed fluxbox.
Blackbox didn't give the same problem, but now mozilla-firefox is.
Here's uname -a output:

`OpenBSD badboybox.cableone.net 3.8 GENERIC#0 i386' &, if needed,

here's the output of dmesg:

OpenBSD 3.8-stable (GENERIC) #0: Fri Dec  2 01:25:13 CST 2005
     [hidden email]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 601 MHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem  = 267952128 (261672K)
avail mem = 237613056 (232044K)
using 3296 buffers containing 13500416 bytes (13184K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(a7) BIOS, date 01/31/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb4f0
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf0000/0xb970
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdd90/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 9 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 ("VIA VT82C596A ISA" rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0x8000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "VIA VT82C691 PCI" rev 0xc4
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "VIA VT82C598 AGP" rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "VIA VT82C686 ISA" rev 0x22
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 "VIA VT82C571 IDE" rev 0x10: ATA66, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: <WDC WD300BB-00AUA1>
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 28629MB, 58633344 sectors
wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: <WDC WD400BB-00AUA1>
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <HP, CD-Writer+ 9500b, 1.06> SCSI0 5/cdrom removable
atapiscsi1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1
scsibus1 at atapiscsi1: 2 targets
cd1 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <ASUS, CD-S500/A, 1.0K> SCSI0 5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
cd1(pciide0:1:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x10: irq 9
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x10: irq 9
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
viaenv0 at pci0 dev 7 function 4 "VIA VT82C686 SMBus" rev 0x30
auvia0 at pci0 dev 7 function 5 "VIA VT82C686 AC97" rev 0x20: irq 5
ac97: codec id 0x83847644 (SigmaTel STAC9744/45)
ac97: codec features 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, SigmaTel 3D
audio0 at auvia0
fxp0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 "Intel 82557" rev 0x08, i82559: irq 11, address 00:d0:b7:ba:15:09
inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4
vga1 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 "3DFX Interactive Voodoo3" rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: <PC speaker>
spkr0 at pcppi0
sysbeep0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
biomask e745 netmask ef45 ttymask ffc7
pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80
wd1: no disk label
dkcsum: wd1 matches BIOS drive 0x81
root on wd0a
rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302
wsdisplay0: screen 6 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 7 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)

Before installing release from cd, I had previously been running
current to learn more & had, against instructions, rebuilt
everything numerous times with no particular bad results. Found
the same problem then with packages, where if I built from
ports instead, no problem with ./out-of-date. I know everyone's
busy with development, running production systems & so forth.
This is not a production machine, just a learning device for me,
so this isn't urgent. Just trying to learn what I'm doing wrong.
Fine system for all I can see so far. I've been running fbsd for
a long time now on my old hp netserver & am relatively new to obsd,
especially to the way ports are handled. Used to running portupgrade
& associated programs like portversion in fbsd. Thanks for any help
I can get.
Denny White

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Re: ./out-of-date question

Joachim Schipper
On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 12:41:50PM -0600, Denny White wrote:

>
> Have a question about the results of running
> /usr/ports/infrastructure/build/./out-of-date.
> Here is the output from it:
> Make sure your ports tree is up-to-date
> Generating specs
> Checking new package names
> Recording old package names
> Showing discrepancies
> --- /tmp/outdated.IJmN26992/old Sat Dec  3 12:02:14 2005
> +++ /tmp/outdated.IJmN26992/new Sat Dec  3 12:02:14 2005
> @@ -17,7 +17,7 @@
>   libiconv-1.9.2p1
>   libltdl-1.5.18
>   mergemaster-1.46p0
> -mozilla-firefox-1.0.6p3
> +mozilla-firefox-1.0.6p4
>   pine-4.63
>   png-1.2.8
>   tcl-8.4.7p1
> Before installing mozilla-firefox, running ./out-of-date
> showed nothing needing updating. I had installed the normal
> programs I use here at home. Pine, fetchmail, gnupg, gpgme,
> cvsup, mergemaster. No problems. I installed obsd 3.8 release
> off the cd along with src, sys, XF4, ports. Then did a cvsup
> to a local backup drive (complete tree), cd into /usr/src,
> ran `cvs -d$CVSROOT -rOPENBSD_3_8 up -Pd', did the same for
> /usr/ports & /usr/XF4, rebuilt kernel & installed & rebooted
> (everything worked ok), rebuilt userland making sure /usr/obj
> was clean & running beforehand the usual `cd /usr/src/etc &&
> env DESTDIR=/ make distrib-dirs' & after running `cd
> /usr/src/usr.sbin/httpd && make -f Makefile.bsd-
> wrapper distribution' & then mergemaster, rebuilt /usr/XF4,
> everything still okay up to installing mozilla-firefox package.
> I haven't been building ports as I have no particular special
> needs to build in, just installing packages with
> `pkg_add ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/3.8/packages/i386/prog.tgz'.
> The same thing had happened previously when I had installed fluxbox.
> Blackbox didn't give the same problem, but now mozilla-firefox is.
> Here's uname -a output:

It is possible for packages to lag behind ports. Packages are slanted
towards -release, not -stable or -current, IIRC.

Anyway, just build Firefox from source if you want 1.0.6p4.

                Joachim

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Denny White
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On Dec 3 Joachim Schipper contributed the following:

> On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 12:41:50PM -0600, Denny White wrote:
>>
>> Have a question about the results of running
>> /usr/ports/infrastructure/build/./out-of-date.
>> Here is the output from it:
>> Make sure your ports tree is up-to-date
>> Generating specs
>> Checking new package names
>> Recording old package names
>> Showing discrepancies
>> --- /tmp/outdated.IJmN26992/old Sat Dec  3 12:02:14 2005
>> +++ /tmp/outdated.IJmN26992/new Sat Dec  3 12:02:14 2005
>> @@ -17,7 +17,7 @@
>>   libiconv-1.9.2p1
>>   libltdl-1.5.18
>>   mergemaster-1.46p0
>> -mozilla-firefox-1.0.6p3
>> +mozilla-firefox-1.0.6p4
>>   pine-4.63
>>   png-1.2.8
>>   tcl-8.4.7p1
>> Before installing mozilla-firefox, running ./out-of-date
>> showed nothing needing updating. I had installed the normal
>> programs I use here at home. Pine, fetchmail, gnupg, gpgme,
>> cvsup, mergemaster. No problems. I installed obsd 3.8 release
>> off the cd along with src, sys, XF4, ports. Then did a cvsup
>> to a local backup drive (complete tree), cd into /usr/src,
>> ran `cvs -d$CVSROOT -rOPENBSD_3_8 up -Pd', did the same for
>> /usr/ports & /usr/XF4, rebuilt kernel & installed & rebooted
>> (everything worked ok), rebuilt userland making sure /usr/obj
>> was clean & running beforehand the usual `cd /usr/src/etc &&
>> env DESTDIR=/ make distrib-dirs' & after running `cd
>> /usr/src/usr.sbin/httpd && make -f Makefile.bsd-
>> wrapper distribution' & then mergemaster, rebuilt /usr/XF4,
>> everything still okay up to installing mozilla-firefox package.
>> I haven't been building ports as I have no particular special
>> needs to build in, just installing packages with
>> `pkg_add ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/3.8/packages/i386/prog.tgz'.
>> The same thing had happened previously when I had installed fluxbox.
>> Blackbox didn't give the same problem, but now mozilla-firefox is.
>> Here's uname -a output:
>
> It is possible for packages to lag behind ports. Packages are slanted
> towards -release, not -stable or -current, IIRC.
>
> Anyway, just build Firefox from source if you want 1.0.6p4.
>
> Joachim
>
>
Thanks, Joachim. Now I remember reading the lag thing. Sorry
for the bother. Unistalled the package, ran ./out-of-date &
no more problem. Built firefox from ports, reran ./out-of-date
& once again, no more problems. Much appreciated.
Denny White

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