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Default User-4
When will we ever see binary updates for OpenBSD?  Taking a system
off-line for over 20 hours to do a source code rebuild is just too long,
and just tracking RELEASE means running an insecure system.

Binary updating - try it, you'll like it!

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Re: binary updates

Rod Whitworth-3
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:31:08 -0600, Default User wrote:

>When will we ever see binary updates for OpenBSD?  Taking a system
>off-line for over 20 hours to do a source code rebuild is just too long,
>and just tracking RELEASE means running an insecure system.
>
>Binary updating - try it, you'll like it!
>
Troll >/dev/null
Plonk!
From the land "down under": Australia.
Do we look <umop apisdn> from up over?

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Re: binary updates

bofh-6
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Just curious - why are you using a system that you don't understand
the philosophy of?  No, that came out wrong.  Why aren't you trying to
better understand the system you are using?

On 2/26/07, Default User <[hidden email]> wrote:
> When will we ever see binary updates for OpenBSD?  Taking a system
> off-line for over 20 hours to do a source code rebuild is just too long,
> and just tracking RELEASE means running an insecure system.
>
> Binary updating - try it, you'll like it!

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Re: binary updates

scorch-2
> On 2/26/07, Default User <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> When will we ever see binary updates for OpenBSD?  Taking a system
>> off-line for over 20 hours to do a source code rebuild is just too long,
>> and just tracking RELEASE means running an insecure system.
>>
>> Binary updating - try it, you'll like it!

you *can* do this - use snapshots. i just did one today -

check openbsd.org/ for any upgrade information

- download bsd.rd, reboot on that & follow (u)pgrade instructions
- it uses ftp to retrieve the rest of the sets you need
- use pkg_add -uiv to upgrade any packages for the final finishing touches

looks like a binary upgrade to me. or are you expecting something else?

a+
scorch

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Re: binary updates

Joachim Schipper
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:23:40PM +1300, [hidden email] wrote:

> >On 2/26/07, Default User <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>When will we ever see binary updates for OpenBSD?  Taking a system
> >>off-line for over 20 hours to do a source code rebuild is just too long,
> >>and just tracking RELEASE means running an insecure system.
> >>
> >>Binary updating - try it, you'll like it!
>
> you *can* do this - use snapshots. i just did one today -
>
> check openbsd.org/ for any upgrade information
>
> - download bsd.rd, reboot on that & follow (u)pgrade instructions
> - it uses ftp to retrieve the rest of the sets you need
> - use pkg_add -uiv to upgrade any packages for the final finishing touches
>
> looks like a binary upgrade to me. or are you expecting something else?

There are no binary updates for the base system to the -stable branch.
The solution, of course, is to create those yourself - see release(8),
the FAQ, or ...

And hint: system don't need to be taken offline in most cases, and you
*can* build on a non-production machine.

                Joachim

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Re: binary updates

Marc Espie-2
The main reason we don't have binary stable updates is that no-one we
trust has the time to build them. It means maintaining an extra machine
that would only track stable, do builds, do the equivalent of releases.
One release every six months is a lot of work already.

If people want to provide stable builds, they're free to do so. Of course,
there's a catch: you have to trust external people to give you trojan-free
stuff...