Hi everyone,
First off: Thanks, lots, to everyone having made it possible to install OpenBSD to these two old and dear Macintosh Powerbooks - the hardware on both of them - after minor repairs - after that many years seems be still okay - which is close to a being a miracle given that nowadays hardware does not seem to be even close as robust as the one on these two machines. One of those Macintoshs is from 2002, the other one from 2006. This message isn't an installation report - just a quick note that an install with these two images, dd-ed to a USB drive, installed successfully OpenBSD to both machines. Images used: install64.iso sha256sum: 66924962734ca189657d9e37c9d9f59488cbd3d15ccceaa429794f759fcda587 and install65.iso - downloaded a few days ago sha256sum: 4ed18cf0bc3b7205bd25b2c58cbd20c82e83056613c1601b03a1b9289c672c6f [ note 0: 6.5 was unable to pull new packages after the successful basic install - with messages along the line of: "Can't install ... can't resolve package ..." ... no idea what went wrong. 6.4 seems to work when installing new packages after the initial install. note 1: Both installers, IIRC, 6.5 and 6.4, don't ask for a keyboard language setup. So be careful about the passwords you type in during the install procedure. ] A quick instruction on the install via USB: You need to enter Open Firmware mode of your Macintosh: after powering on the machine quickly hold down <Apple Key>-<Alt> plus O and F Keep holding all four keys until OF shows up. At the OF prompt type: 0 > dev / ls A device tree is drawn: Search for lines like those: /pci@f2000000 /usb@18 /disk@1 Note they are mixed with other lines in the tree. And they might look different on your machine, like e.g. /pci@f2000000 /usb@15 /disk@1 Now type: 0> devalias Look for lines that match a /usb number from above: one might look like so: usb0 pci@f000000/@15 Here's the final part that worked here. Type something like this - taking into account the last example line from OF, and the ones above ("/usb@15 /disk@1") to boot the openbsd installer: boot usb0/disk@1:2,ofwboot /6.4/macppc/bsd.rd You have lots more details on this usb install on the following page - a page that was instrumental to help me understand this install mode: https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2012/08/msg00042.html After successfully installing the two mentioned images I didn't have a known boot manager like grub, yaboot etc.. instead I again needed to enter OF: Once there boot hd:,ofwboot /bsd might work right after install of OBSD 6.4 if the OS boot fails. To see whether this works repeat looking at the output in OF from above: dev / ls and devalias Please also note: https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/6.4/macppc/INSTALL.macppc and this part of that page: --------------- Autobooting OpenBSD/macppc It is possible to automatically boot into OpenBSD (selectably into Mac OS) by setting up the following: setenv auto-boot? true setenv boot-device hd:,ofwboot [to save the results into NVRAM] reset-all ---------------- Might be a good idea to update INSTALL.macppc instructions, provided a few more installs by others can verify the described procedure. Anyways: preliminary, quick patch draft is attached below. Diff done to an INSTALL.macppc being already a few days old. Thanks again! And success to the lucky ones still having an old PPC Macintosh around ... :) Regards, Wolfgang The diff: --- INSTALL.macppc 2019-02-26 23:41:53.297984851 +0100 +++ INSTALL.macppc.new 2019-03-11 16:39:37.853061662 +0100 @@ -226,6 +226,7 @@ HFS partitions (bootloader/kernel only, using another media for d/l) Remote NFS partition HTTP + USB The steps necessary to prepare the distribution sets for installation depend on which method of installation you choose. Some methods @@ -295,6 +296,47 @@ Once the NFS server is set up properly and you have the information mentioned above, you can proceed to the next step in the installation or upgrade process. + + +You can also boot the installer with a USB thumb: To do that enter +Open Firmware - see below how to do that. At the OF prompt type + +0 > dev / ls + + A device tree is drawn: Search for lines like those: + + /pci@f2000000 + /usb@18 + /disk@1 + + Note they are mixed with other lines in the tree. And they + might look different on your machine, like + + /pci@f2000000 + /usb@15 + /disk@1 + + Now type: + +0> devalias + + Look for lines that match a /usb number from above: one might + look like so: + + usb0 pci@f000000/@15 + + Here's the final part. Type something like this - taking into + account the last example line from OF, and the ones above + ("/usb@15 /disk@1") to boot the openbsd installer: + +boot usb0/disk@1:2,ofwboot /6.4/macppc/bsd.rd + + You have lots more details on this usb install on the + following page - a page that was instrumental to get this + USB install working: + +https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2012/08/msg00042.html + If you are upgrading OpenBSD, you also have the option of installing OpenBSD by putting the new distribution sets somewhere in your |
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 04:56:05PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
>This message isn't an installation report - just a quick note that an >install with these two images, dd-ed to a USB drive, installed >successfully OpenBSD to both machines. Note: 6.5 was only installed to the PowerBook5,8, IIRC. Version 6.4 is now on both machines. Wolfgang > >Images used: > >install64.iso >sha256sum: >66924962734ca189657d9e37c9d9f59488cbd3d15ccceaa429794f759fcda587 > >and >install65.iso - downloaded a few days ago >sha256sum: >4ed18cf0bc3b7205bd25b2c58cbd20c82e83056613c1601b03a1b9289c672c6f |
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Hello !
Good to hear, that things are working. > [ note 0: > 6.5 was unable to pull new packages after the successful basic > install - with messages along the line of: > > "Can't install ... can't resolve package ..." > > ... no idea what went wrong. 6.4 seems to work when installing new > packages after the initial install. Check your /etc/installurl or, your $PKG_PATH as 6.5 is not out now so, you need to replace it with snapshots, even uname reports, that it is 6.5. > note 1: > Both installers, IIRC, 6.5 and 6.4, don't ask for a keyboard > language setup. So be careful about the passwords you type in > during the install procedure. ] > That is normal on this platform. > If you are upgrading OpenBSD, you also have the option of installing > OpenBSD by putting the new distribution sets somewhere in your Is there something missing ? Regards, Christoph |
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 06:52:12PM +0100, [hidden email] wrote:
>Hello ! > >Good to hear, that things are working. > >>[ note 0: >> 6.5 was unable to pull new packages after the successful basic >> install - with messages along the line of: >> >> "Can't install ... can't resolve package ..." >> >> ... no idea what went wrong. 6.4 seems to work when installing new >> packages after the initial install. > >Check your /etc/installurl or, your $PKG_PATH as 6.5 is not out now >so, you need to replace it with snapshots, even uname reports, that it >is 6.5. Aah, glad to hear I was just missing out on something ... might try 6.5 again .. ;) > >> note 1: >> Both installers, IIRC, 6.5 and 6.4, don't ask for a keyboard >> language setup. So be careful about the passwords you type in >> during the install procedure. ] >> > >That is normal on this platform. Might be nice to warn people about it: I think I only was careful about the keyboard because I was messing with Open Firmware long enough before the install to remember the QWERTY keyboard .. ;) Updated patch for INSTALL.macppc, attached .. ;) > >>If you are upgrading OpenBSD, you also have the option of installing >>OpenBSD by putting the new distribution sets somewhere in your > >Is there something missing ? I assume you refer to the regular fresh install, right? If yes: No, perfect: except my surprise after the install seeing a blinking folder only, after rebooting to an otherwise empty screen ... ;) I intend to send an install report as soon as I have my mail system on 6.4 up and running. (dmesg output etc ..) ... or get USB thumbs mounted on OBSD to transfer the reports to a Linux system ... :) Regards, Wolfgang updated diff: --- INSTALL.macppc 2019-02-26 23:41:53.297984851 +0100 +++ INSTALL.macppc.new 2019-03-11 21:04:30.751223925 +0100 @@ -226,6 +226,7 @@ HFS partitions (bootloader/kernel only, using another media for d/l) Remote NFS partition HTTP + USB The steps necessary to prepare the distribution sets for installation depend on which method of installation you choose. Some methods @@ -295,6 +296,47 @@ Once the NFS server is set up properly and you have the information mentioned above, you can proceed to the next step in the installation or upgrade process. + + +You can also boot the installer with a USB thumb: To do that enter +Open Firmware - see below how to do that. At the OF prompt type + +0 > dev / ls + + A device tree is drawn: Search for lines like those: + + /pci@f2000000 + /usb@18 + /disk@1 + + Note they are mixed with other lines in the tree. And they + might look different on your machine, like + + /pci@f2000000 + /usb@15 + /disk@1 + + Now type: + +0> devalias + + Look for lines that match a /usb number from above: one might + look like so: + + usb0 pci@f000000/@15 + + Here's the final part. Type something like this - taking into + account the last example line from OF, and the ones above + ("/usb@15 /disk@1") to boot the openbsd installer: + +boot usb0/disk@1:2,ofwboot /6.4/macppc/bsd.rd + + You have lots more details on this usb install on the + following page - a page that was instrumental to get this + USB install working: + +https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2012/08/msg00042.html + If you are upgrading OpenBSD, you also have the option of installing OpenBSD by putting the new distribution sets somewhere in your @@ -1019,9 +1061,12 @@ When prompted, select the (U)pgrade option rather than the (I)nstall option at the prompt in the install process. -You will be presented with a welcome message, and depending on how you are -connected to the system, you will be asked to set the terminal type or to -choose a keyboard layout. +You will be presented with a welcome message, and depending on how you +are connected to the system, you will be asked to set the terminal +type or to choose a keyboard layout. But normally on this platform you +won't be asked for a keyboard layout. So be aware you have a QWERTY +keyboard when later on during the install you'll be asked for typing +in passwords. The upgrade script will ask you for the existing root partition, and will use the existing filesystems defined in /etc/fstab to install the |
> I assume you refer to the regular fresh install, right? If yes: No, > perfect: Nope, just thought copy and paste was not completed. |
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