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Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100

Landry Breuil-4
Hello,

i'm trying to install OpenBSD/Sparc64 on a Blade 100, tried various
methods/versions (all described in INSTALL.sparc64), they all fail after
'Trying bsd....' and stall. Where can i have a start point to debug what
happens/doesn't happen ?

I've tried :
- 3.9-release Cdrom (original version from wim)
- 4.1-release cd41.iso taken from mirror/4.1
- 4.1-current cd41.iso taken from snapshots
- knowing cd-install are not really good on blades, i tried netbooting
bsd.rd 4.1-release and -current, using another obsd box as
rarpd/tftpd/rpc.bootparamd/nfsd/mountd server, set like described in
diskless(8). The weird thing is that ofwboot.net is taken from tftpd after
'boot net bsd.rd', ran, i see the first twolines :
OpenBSD 4.1 (obj) #0: -build-date-
    [hidden email]:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC
then
Trying bsd....
and
stalled-nothing more on the screen.

but i see no mount requests in mountd -d output.
i tried following
https://www-s.acm.uiuc.edu/wiki/comments/OpenBSD+Sparc64#notes documentation
too.

security-mode is set to none in OBP, and firmware version is 4.0.45, i don't
think it needs a firmware upgrade.
Could it be a hardware problem ? How can i get more debug information ?

Thanks for any hints.

Next step will be trying to use a floppy (gee, i have to find a floppy
reader and a disk), or putting the disk in my U10 (which works fine) and try
to do the install on it.

Landry

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Re: Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100

Ted Bullock
I had the same problem until I updated the firmware to 4.17.1

-Ted

Landry Breuil wrote:

> Hello,
>
> i'm trying to install OpenBSD/Sparc64 on a Blade 100, tried various
> methods/versions (all described in INSTALL.sparc64), they all fail after
> 'Trying bsd....' and stall. Where can i have a start point to debug what
> happens/doesn't happen ?
>
> I've tried :
> - 3.9-release Cdrom (original version from wim)
> - 4.1-release cd41.iso taken from mirror/4.1
> - 4.1-current cd41.iso taken from snapshots
> - knowing cd-install are not really good on blades, i tried netbooting
> bsd.rd 4.1-release and -current, using another obsd box as
> rarpd/tftpd/rpc.bootparamd/nfsd/mountd server, set like described in
> diskless(8). The weird thing is that ofwboot.net is taken from tftpd after
> 'boot net bsd.rd', ran, i see the first twolines :
> OpenBSD 4.1 (obj) #0: -build-date-
>     [hidden email]:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC
> then
> Trying bsd....
> and
> stalled-nothing more on the screen.
>
> but i see no mount requests in mountd -d output.
> i tried following
> https://www-s.acm.uiuc.edu/wiki/comments/OpenBSD+Sparc64#notes documentation
> too.
>
> security-mode is set to none in OBP, and firmware version is 4.0.45, i don't
> think it needs a firmware upgrade.
> Could it be a hardware problem ? How can i get more debug information ?
>
> Thanks for any hints.
>
> Next step will be trying to use a floppy (gee, i have to find a floppy
> reader and a disk), or putting the disk in my U10 (which works fine) and try
> to do the install on it.
>
> Landry
>
> .
>

--
Theodore Bullock, <[hidden email], [hidden email]>
B.Sc Software Engineering
Bike Across Canada Adventure http://www.comlore.com/bike

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Re: Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100

Landry Breuil-4
In reply to this post by Landry Breuil-4
2007/5/31, Markus Lude <[hidden email]>:

>
> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 11:49:45PM +0200, Landry Breuil wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > i'm trying to install OpenBSD/Sparc64 on a Blade 100, tried various
> > methods/versions (all described in INSTALL.sparc64), they all fail after
> > 'Trying bsd....' and stall. Where can i have a start point to debug what
> > happens/doesn't happen ?
> >
> > I've tried :
> > - 3.9-release Cdrom (original version from wim)
> > - 4.1-release cd41.iso taken from mirror/4.1
> > - 4.1-current cd41.iso taken from snapshots
> > - knowing cd-install are not really good on blades
>
> I never had any problems on the blade 100 here with installations from
> cd using the image on the ftp servers. My first version was 3.8, now
> running -current.
>
> Have you tried booting from a cd with cd41.iso from 4.1 or snapshots as
> image?


Yes, that was try 2 and try 3 :)

As advidec by Ted Bullock, i'll try to update the firmware to the latest
version to see if it changes something.. trying to boot the debian etch
netinst stalls too at 'Booting Linux'. I'm pretty sure this machine was
running SunOS before, i don't know if it's related. Maybe trying a firmware
reset too.

Markus, what is the version of the OBP on your blade ? (dev /openprom
.properties says it)

Landry

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Re: Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100

Landry Breuil-4
In reply to this post by Ted Bullock
2007/5/31, Ted Bullock <[hidden email]>:
>
> I had the same problem until I updated the firmware to 4.17.1

-Ted

>
> Landry Breuil wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > i'm trying to install OpenBSD/Sparc64 on a Blade 100, tried various
> > methods/versions (all described in INSTALL.sparc64), they all fail after
> > 'Trying bsd....' and stall. Where can i have a start point to debug what
> > happens/doesn't happen ?
> >
> > I've tried :
> > - 3.9-release Cdrom (original version from wim)
> > - 4.1-release cd41.iso taken from mirror/4.1
> > - 4.1-current cd41.iso taken from snapshots
> > - knowing cd-install are not really good on blades, i tried netbooting
> > bsd.rd 4.1-release and -current, using another obsd box as
> > rarpd/tftpd/rpc.bootparamd/nfsd/mountd server, set like described in
> > diskless(8). The weird thing is that ofwboot.net is taken from tftpd
> after
> > 'boot net bsd.rd', ran, i see the first twolines :
> > OpenBSD 4.1 (obj) #0: -build-date-
> >     [hidden email]
> :/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC
> > then
> > Trying bsd....
> > and
> > stalled-nothing more on the screen.
> >
> > but i see no mount requests in mountd -d output.
> > i tried following
> > https://www-s.acm.uiuc.edu/wiki/comments/OpenBSD+Sparc64#notesdocumentation
> > too.
> >
> > security-mode is set to none in OBP, and firmware version is 4.0.45, i
> don't
> > think it needs a firmware upgrade.
> > Could it be a hardware problem ? How can i get more debug information ?
> >
> > Thanks for any hints.
> >
> > Next step will be trying to use a floppy (gee, i have to find a floppy
> > reader and a disk), or putting the disk in my U10 (which works fine) and
> try
> > to do the install on it.
> >
> > Landry


Upgrading to 4.17.1 didn't solved the issue here.... i'm still having the
same problem, kernel hanging just after "Trying bsd....", either using
netboot or cdrom and various versions.
I had no problem installing -current on Ultra60, even with a really older
firmware version..

Really annoying. If anyone has a hint to debug this issue..

Landry

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Re: Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100

Landry Breuil-4
2007/6/7, Landry Breuil <[hidden email]>:

>
>
>
> 2007/5/31, Ted Bullock <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > I had the same problem until I updated the firmware to 4.17.1
>
> -Ted
> >
> > Landry Breuil wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > i'm trying to install OpenBSD/Sparc64 on a Blade 100, tried various
> > > methods/versions (all described in INSTALL.sparc64), they all fail
> > after
> > > 'Trying bsd....' and stall. Where can i have a start point to debug
> > what
> > > happens/doesn't happen ?
> > >
> > > I've tried :
> > > - 3.9-release Cdrom (original version from wim)
> > > - 4.1-release cd41.iso taken from mirror/4.1
> > > - 4.1-current cd41.iso taken from snapshots
> > > - knowing cd-install are not really good on blades, i tried netbooting
> > > bsd.rd 4.1-release and -current, using another obsd box as
> > > rarpd/tftpd/rpc.bootparamd/nfsd/mountd server, set like described in
> > > diskless(8). The weird thing is that ofwboot.net is taken from tftpd
> > after
> > > 'boot net bsd.rd', ran, i see the first twolines :
> > > OpenBSD 4.1 (obj) #0: -build-date-
> > >     [hidden email]
> > :/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC
> > > then
> > > Trying bsd....
> > > and
> > > stalled-nothing more on the screen.
> > >
> > > but i see no mount requests in mountd -d output.
> > > i tried following
> > > https://www-s.acm.uiuc.edu/wiki/comments/OpenBSD+Sparc64#notesdocumentation
> > > too.
> > >
> > > security-mode is set to none in OBP, and firmware version is 4.0.45, i
> > don't
> > > think it needs a firmware upgrade.
> > > Could it be a hardware problem ? How can i get more debug information
> > ?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any hints.
> > >
> > > Next step will be trying to use a floppy (gee, i have to find a floppy
> >
> > > reader and a disk), or putting the disk in my U10 (which works fine)
> > and try
> > > to do the install on it.
> > >
> > > Landry
>
>
> Upgrading to 4.17.1 didn't solved the issue here.... i'm still having the
> same problem, kernel hanging just after "Trying bsd....", either using
> netboot or cdrom and various versions.
> I had no problem installing -current on Ultra60, even with a really older
> firmware version..
>
> Really annoying. If anyone has a hint to debug this issue..
>

I'm starting to suspect hardware, because even with this OBP upgrade i
didn't manage to start the install of FreeBSD/sparc, NetBSD/sparc64, and
various flavors of Linux/Sparc. All the installers start a kernel, and hangs
at various places in kernel startup. It's not a question of serial console
redirection, because i can ping the host when the boot starts, and it
doesn't respond to pings as soon as it stalls during boot process. (And i
don't have a db25 compatible serial cable..).

Could it be memory ? hard disk ? Box has a 256mb + 512mb , and i don't know
a way to test this memory without os on the box. Smth like memconf
http://myweb.cableone.net/4schmidts/memconf.html or memtest for sparc would
be appreciated.

I'll try maybe

setenv diag-switch? true
setenv diag-level max
reset

but i really have no more ideas to boot this Blade 100.
(and various flavors of openbsd works really well on Ultra 10 and ultra 60
here)
Landry

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Re: Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100

Jimmy Mitchener
On 6/7/07, Landry Breuil <[hidden email]> wrote:

> 2007/6/7, Landry Breuil <[hidden email]>:
> >
> >
> >
> > 2007/5/31, Ted Bullock <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > > I had the same problem until I updated the firmware to 4.17.1
> >
> > -Ted
> > >
> > > Landry Breuil wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > i'm trying to install OpenBSD/Sparc64 on a Blade 100, tried various
> > > > methods/versions (all described in INSTALL.sparc64), they all fail
> > > after
> > > > 'Trying bsd....' and stall. Where can i have a start point to debug
> > > what
> > > > happens/doesn't happen ?
> > > >
> > > > I've tried :
> > > > - 3.9-release Cdrom (original version from wim)
> > > > - 4.1-release cd41.iso taken from mirror/4.1
> > > > - 4.1-current cd41.iso taken from snapshots
> > > > - knowing cd-install are not really good on blades, i tried netbooting
> > > > bsd.rd 4.1-release and -current, using another obsd box as
> > > > rarpd/tftpd/rpc.bootparamd/nfsd/mountd server, set like described in
> > > > diskless(8). The weird thing is that ofwboot.net is taken from tftpd
> > > after
> > > > 'boot net bsd.rd', ran, i see the first twolines :
> > > > OpenBSD 4.1 (obj) #0: -build-date-
> > > >     [hidden email]
> > > :/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC
> > > > then
> > > > Trying bsd....
> > > > and
> > > > stalled-nothing more on the screen.
> > > >
> > > > but i see no mount requests in mountd -d output.
> > > > i tried following
> > > > https://www-s.acm.uiuc.edu/wiki/comments/OpenBSD+Sparc64#notesdocumentation
> > > > too.
> > > >
> > > > security-mode is set to none in OBP, and firmware version is 4.0.45, i
> > > don't
> > > > think it needs a firmware upgrade.
> > > > Could it be a hardware problem ? How can i get more debug information
> > > ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any hints.
> > > >
> > > > Next step will be trying to use a floppy (gee, i have to find a floppy
> > >
> > > > reader and a disk), or putting the disk in my U10 (which works fine)
> > > and try
> > > > to do the install on it.
> > > >
> > > > Landry
> >
> >
> > Upgrading to 4.17.1 didn't solved the issue here.... i'm still having the
> > same problem, kernel hanging just after "Trying bsd....", either using
> > netboot or cdrom and various versions.
> > I had no problem installing -current on Ultra60, even with a really older
> > firmware version..
> >
> > Really annoying. If anyone has a hint to debug this issue..
> >
>
> I'm starting to suspect hardware, because even with this OBP upgrade i
> didn't manage to start the install of FreeBSD/sparc, NetBSD/sparc64, and
> various flavors of Linux/Sparc. All the installers start a kernel, and hangs
> at various places in kernel startup. It's not a question of serial console
> redirection, because i can ping the host when the boot starts, and it
> doesn't respond to pings as soon as it stalls during boot process. (And i
> don't have a db25 compatible serial cable..).
>
> Could it be memory ? hard disk ? Box has a 256mb + 512mb , and i don't know
> a way to test this memory without os on the box. Smth like memconf
> http://myweb.cableone.net/4schmidts/memconf.html or memtest for sparc would
> be appreciated.
>
> I'll try maybe
>
> setenv diag-switch? true
> setenv diag-level max
> reset
>
> but i really have no more ideas to boot this Blade 100.
> (and various flavors of openbsd works really well on Ultra 10 and ultra 60
> here)
> Landry
>
>

I'm afraid it doesn't really help you much, but I got 4.1 installed on
a Blade 100 from the CDs without a hitch :D

Just so you know it's not an issue specific to all blades I guess.

Jimmy.

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Re: Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100

Landry Breuil-4
In reply to this post by Landry Breuil-4
2007/6/7, Maxim Belooussov <[hidden email]>:

>
> >
> > I'm starting to suspect hardware, because even with this OBP upgrade i
> > didn't manage to start the install of FreeBSD/sparc, NetBSD/sparc64, and
> > various flavors of Linux/Sparc. All the installers start a kernel, and
> hangs
> > at various places in kernel startup. It's not a question of serial
> console
> > redirection, because i can ping the host when the boot starts, and it
> > doesn't respond to pings as soon as it stalls during boot process. (And
> i
> > don't have a db25 compatible serial cable..).
> >
> > Could it be memory ? hard disk ? Box has a 256mb + 512mb , and i don't
> know
> > a way to test this memory without os on the box. Smth like memconf
> > http://myweb.cableone.net/4schmidts/memconf.html or memtest for sparc
> would
> > be appreciated.
> >
>
> remove one of the ram sticks and try again?
>


Ok, so sorry for all this noise, this was a hw issue. 'set diag-switch?
true' at OBP prompt showed POST errors on DIMM1, I swapped both memory
modules, and POST was happy. In five minutes, box was installed, and now
happily runs -current. I really should learn OBP diagnostic commands.
Definitely, this couldn't be an OpenBSD issue :)
Thanks again to all devs for such a wonderful OS.

Landry

Dmesg for the record : http://gruiik.info/stuff/dmesg.lizzy

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Re: Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100

Brian A. Seklecki
>>> Could it be memory ? hard disk ? Box has a 256mb + 512mb , and i don't
>> know
>>> a way to test this memory without os on the box. Smth like memconf

There should be a memtest_obp_sparc whatever -- there's already one for
the OBP platform on the Apple PowerPC platform.  Most Sun shops have
everything deployed HA and have a $4000/month support contract, though, so
I've never actually had to test for bad ram on a Sparc.

Memoryx.net says the Blade100/150 uses PC133 ECC, so you should be able to
test it in an i386 machine w/ memtest.

~BAS

>>> http://myweb.cableone.net/4schmidts/memconf.html or memtest for sparc