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Do I need slaacd(8) up and running?

Walter Alejandro Iglesias-3
A question to the experts here.

My home router (a crappy one provided by my ISP) has ipv6 disabled, at
least it's what its guied configuration tells me. :-)  And I have ipv6
disabled in all my LAN machines.  The laptop I use with OpenBSD has
slaacd(8) up and running by default, even when I didn't configure any
interface to use ipv6 at install time.

Under the above conditions, do I still need slaacd running?

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Re: Do I need slaacd(8) up and running?

Theo de Raadt-2
>A question to the experts here.
>
>My home router (a crappy one provided by my ISP) has ipv6 disabled, at
>least it's what its guied configuration tells me. :-)  And I have ipv6
>disabled in all my LAN machines.  The laptop I use with OpenBSD has
>slaacd(8) up and running by default, even when I didn't configure any
>interface to use ipv6 at install time.
>
>Under the above conditions, do I still need slaacd running?

Yes, absolutely.

Otherwise one day you will configure up v6 on an interface and
come whining about how your custom configuration isn't do inet6
boohoohoo.

You need it.  And don't go writing some balony blog saying you don't
need it.

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Re: Do I need slaacd(8) up and running?

Walter Alejandro Iglesias-3
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 05:58:59AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:

> >A question to the experts here.
> >
> >My home router (a crappy one provided by my ISP) has ipv6 disabled, at
> >least it's what its guied configuration tells me. :-)  And I have ipv6
> >disabled in all my LAN machines.  The laptop I use with OpenBSD has
> >slaacd(8) up and running by default, even when I didn't configure any
> >interface to use ipv6 at install time.
> >
> >Under the above conditions, do I still need slaacd running?
>
> Yes, absolutely.
>
> Otherwise one day you will configure up v6 on an interface and
> come whining about how your custom configuration isn't do inet6
> boohoohoo.

OK.  You assume I'm an asshole.

>
> You need it.  And don't go writing some balony blog saying you don't
> need it.

I don't need blogs. :-)


Look, I'm very happy with OpenBSD (*honestly*) in the technical as well
as in the human aspect.  The *only one* negative point I found till now
in this project is your attitude.  The next time you want to insult me
do it in private, in that way you won't harm the project (taking in care
the other people working hard on it).

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Re: Do I need slaacd(8) up and running?

Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 03:40:42PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 05:58:59AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > >A question to the experts here.
> > >
> > >My home router (a crappy one provided by my ISP) has ipv6 disabled, at
> > >least it's what its guied configuration tells me. :-)  And I have ipv6
> > >disabled in all my LAN machines.  The laptop I use with OpenBSD has
> > >slaacd(8) up and running by default, even when I didn't configure any
> > >interface to use ipv6 at install time.
> > >
> > >Under the above conditions, do I still need slaacd running?
> >
> > Yes, absolutely.
> >
> > Otherwise one day you will configure up v6 on an interface and
> > come whining about how your custom configuration isn't do inet6
> > boohoohoo.
>
> OK.  You assume I'm an asshole.

I don't think he did.  He answered your question.

> > You need it.  And don't go writing some balony blog saying you don't
> > need it.
>
> I don't need blogs. :-)
>
>
> Look, I'm very happy with OpenBSD (*honestly*) in the technical as well
> as in the human aspect.  The *only one* negative point I found till now
> in this project is your attitude.  The next time you want to insult me
> do it in private, in that way you won't harm the project (taking in care
> the other people working hard on it).

I fail to see the insult, honestly, unless it's the insinuation that you
might be a blog writer (which you say you aren't, so that should be ok).


--
Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri,
National Bioinformatics Infrastructure Sweden (NBIS),
Uppsala University, Sweden.

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Re: Do I need slaacd(8) up and running?

Theo de Raadt-2
In reply to this post by Walter Alejandro Iglesias-3
>On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 05:58:59AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
>> >A question to the experts here.
>> >
>> >My home router (a crappy one provided by my ISP) has ipv6 disabled, at
>> >least it's what its guied configuration tells me. :-)  And I have ipv6
>> >disabled in all my LAN machines.  The laptop I use with OpenBSD has
>> >slaacd(8) up and running by default, even when I didn't configure any
>> >interface to use ipv6 at install time.
>> >
>> >Under the above conditions, do I still need slaacd running?
>>
>> Yes, absolutely.
>>
>> Otherwise one day you will configure up v6 on an interface and
>> come whining about how your custom configuration isn't do inet6
>> boohoohoo.
>
>OK.  You assume I'm an asshole.
>
>>
>> You need it.  And don't go writing some balony blog saying you don't
>> need it.
>
>I don't need blogs. :-)
>
>
>Look, I'm very happy with OpenBSD (*honestly*) in the technical as well
>as in the human aspect.  The *only one* negative point I found till now
>in this project is your attitude.  The next time you want to insult me
>do it in private, in that way you won't harm the project (taking in care
>the other people working hard on it).

Terribly sad you are such a sensitive soul.

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Re: Do I need slaacd(8) up and running?

Walter Alejandro Iglesias-3
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 04:57:14PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:

> >On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 05:58:59AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >> >A question to the experts here.
> >> >
> >> >My home router (a crappy one provided by my ISP) has ipv6 disabled, at
> >> >least it's what its guied configuration tells me. :-)  And I have ipv6
> >> >disabled in all my LAN machines.  The laptop I use with OpenBSD has
> >> >slaacd(8) up and running by default, even when I didn't configure any
> >> >interface to use ipv6 at install time.
> >> >
> >> >Under the above conditions, do I still need slaacd running?
> >>
> >> Yes, absolutely.
> >>
> >> Otherwise one day you will configure up v6 on an interface and
> >> come whining about how your custom configuration isn't do inet6
> >> boohoohoo.
> >
> >OK.  You assume I'm an asshole.
> >
> >>
> >> You need it.  And don't go writing some balony blog saying you don't
> >> need it.
> >
> >I don't need blogs. :-)
> >
> >
> >Look, I'm very happy with OpenBSD (*honestly*) in the technical as well
> >as in the human aspect.  The *only one* negative point I found till now
> >in this project is your attitude.  The next time you want to insult me
> >do it in private, in that way you won't harm the project (taking in care
> >the other people working hard on it).
>
> Terribly sad you are such a sensitive soul.

Uh, your sarcasms hurt my delicate soul. :-)

I don't usually come here to whine.  I've always kept my systems as
default as possible.  I've never written any article about OpenBSD.
Obviously it's not about me and *that's the bad news*.  Whether or not
you're right about users in general, there are more than one OS out
there with long tradition and experience in developing with the
assumption users are a bunch of irresponsible idiots.  And they count
with a stronger infrastructure than yours.  It's not clever to compete
with those monsters using their same strategy.